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For those that missed it over the weekend, the New York Times has an interesting piece about the sad state of the family that Rudy Giuliani shattered through adultery and divorce. Andrew Giuliani, Giuliani’s son from his second wife Donna Hanover, has been estranged from Giuliani for a long time and says in the article that he will not take any part in Giuliani’s presidential campaign. Giuliani, it appears, isn’t trying to pull his children along with him. “Some campaign Web sites highlight pictures of candidates with family members, but Mr. Giuliani’s does not mention his children, though it includes photographs and mentions of Ms. Nathan [Giuliani's third wife].”

I do not think Giuliani’s relationship with his children should be an issue within the presidential campaign. It is clearly an issue within his family and that is a disappointing consequence of his massively public adultery and eventual divorce from Ms. Hanover. Giuliani has to deal with his own family, though I would suggest that he do so before trying to advocate legislation on anyone else’s family.

Update

CNN has more on Giuliani and his relationship with his children.

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani asked for “privacy” Monday in dealing with what the Republican presidential hopeful called “difficulties” between him and his 21 year-old son.

“I believe that these problems with blended families, you know, are challenges, sometimes they are, and the challenges are best worked on privately,” Giuliani told reporters in a joint news conference with California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger concerning gang violence. “In other words, the more privacy I can have for my family, the better we’re going to be able to deal with all these difficulties.”

Fair enough, but let’s remember that Andrew Giuliani willingly spoke with the Times. This isn’t some sort of paparazzi-induced comment. Andrew is an adult and can handle his affairs as he wishes.

Hat tip to TParty via email.

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18 Responses to “Rudy’s Kids Hate Him”

your sad war on rudy giuliani has taken another disgusting turn. no where do you see on this site anything about the destructive sexual deviance of william jefferson clinton, or even the affair hillary herself had early on in their marriage. no where did it say giuliani’s kids hate him, merely that the break up of his parents strained what was a stronger relationship. maybe someone should as chelsey about monica, or paula, or jennifer, or on and on and on and on and on…make no mistake, if this kind of attack becomes the tool of the left, it will be monica lewinskys name, not donna hannovers, that rings in most peoples’ ears.

the fear you have of how unstoppable rudy can be in a general election shines through once again with this disgrace of a post.

Um, Matt, this site is about the Republican presidential primary of 2008, not the Democratic presidential primary of 2008, let alone the Democratic presidential primary of 1992.

And usually it’s the case when children do not speak to their parents for a year, it’s because they hate them. I’m sorry you’re incapable of reading between the lines.

And Donna Hanover was Giuliani’s wife, not an intern. Giuliani had two children with her. She will most certainly be a topic in this race.

this site is about the republican primary, skewed through the looking glass of a left wing socialist, who seeks the destruction of the rights’ candidates by presenting this site as conservative when it is clearly run by a far left fringe liberal.

maybe you should ask why the new york times doesnt call up chelsey clinton and ask how she feels about her father constantly for 3 decades betraying her mother. obviously a liberal will defend clinton, saying his personal life didnt effect how “great” a president he was. giuliani, unlike clinton, left his wife because the two were simply not right for each other anymore,and rather then have affair after affair like billy, he did the right thing. unlike hillary who stayed with her betrayer so she could keep his last name and run for president.
just more desperate attempts to stop the unstoppable, and elevate an unqualified former muslim, a detestable former trial lawyer, or a polarizing first lady to the presidentcy over the far more qualified giuliani.

“She will most certainly be a topic in this race.”

not if the left has any sense at all. how can hillary attack giuliani for the very things, and alot of ways worse things, she defended her husband for?

giuliani is the best candidate in the field, and its no surprise that as soon as he openned leads over the entire democratic field that this deplorable personal attacks, including seeking out his children for attacks, come out. what a disgrace the new york times and the media in general have become.

Rudy’s just trying his best to emulate St. Ronnie — alienating his own kids.

Matt wrote:

giuliani, unlike clinton, left his wife because the two were simply not right for each other anymore,and rather then have affair after affair like billy, he did the right thing. [emphasis added]

By cheating on her just once? (That we know of.)

Also, how do we try to mask ourselves as conservatives? Our blogroll has liberal sources and we often link to liberal bloggers.

By cheating on her just once? (That we know of.)

as opposed to the vast accounts of clinton’s behavior that was defended by hillary every single time. had to attack rudy for something hillary clinton approves of and defends.

rudy and judith have moved on, donna hanover has moved on. its sad to see the new york times attack the overall frontrunner for president through his child.

if, lets say, bill o’reilly called chelsey clinton and asked her questions about her fathers numerous affairs, scandals, and acts of deviance, the left would go balistic. once again, hypocrisy rules the lefts field.

and i would like verification of this articles title. and no point has rudy’s children said they hated him, making this, like many posts, and outright lie and smear against america’s most qualified and most popular presidential candidate.

matt – you’re off your rocker. I answered your “the article doesn’t actually use the word HATE so it can’t possibly be concluded that not talking to their father for a year constitutes hating him” canard already. Read between the lines, it really isn’t complicated – and as I said in the post, this should not be an issue in the campaign.

And we have never once said we are a conservative site. I’ve made a point of correcting anyone who links to us saying we’re conservative bloggers to be clear that we are not. Covering the Republican primary doesn’t make us conservative and we have never, ever hid the fact that we are all liberals here. Look at the blog roll. Look what other sites the three main authors write for – it’s the top echelon of liberal blogs (FireDogLake, MyDD, Huffington Post).

Just because you’re confused doesn’t mean we tried to confuse you.

Lastly, if Rudy is so inevitable, why are you wasting your time rebutting a NY Times article on a liberal blog?

“Lastly, if Rudy is so inevitable, why are you wasting your time rebutting a NY Times article on a liberal blog?”

to expose your hypocrisy,nonsense like this needs to be confronted and condemned whenever it shows its face. and the pathetic attempt to stand with the clintons, whose history of scandal is unmatched, while bashing one of the greatest candidates either side has seen in quite some time. and since you believe that reading between the lines is more important then actual facts, then simply say obama was raised in a madrassa. sure it says its just a regular muslim school, but c’mon man read between the lines. and if you actually, genuinely read between the lines, you would know that being upset at your parents divorce doesnt mean HATE.

and despite your dispicable use of the mans son to attack him, he also said his father would make a great president, and if someone who “hates” you can admit that, then you liberal fools should lineup behind rudy and forget the hopeless and pathetic field the liberals have put together.

and when we all read between the lines, articles like these, the ones in newsweek, everything keith olbermann says, and other blue blog rants, shows one common truth: the utter fear liberals have of having to face america’s mayor in a general election. so continue your shameful attacks, keep praying(oops liberals dont do that) that you run up against a brownback or a hunter instead of rudy.

OK, here’s where standards come in.

1. Provide me the quote in which the word “Clinton” is used in my original post. Otherwise your claims that I’m defending him or her in this post are false. (cricket cricket cricket)

2. Provide me a link of a dictionary definition of madrassa and an accompanying link of a news story that explains how the elementary school Obama attended constitutes a college level school that preaches hate.

3. Provide me a direct quote and link of Andrew Giuliani saying his father would make a great president. (cricket cricket cricket).

And FYI, read this site and you’ll see that we are critical of every single Republican candidate. We’re not picking on your boy alone here, so stop whining about this being unfair.

[...] Personally I think Giuliani’s relationship with his children is more important than his relationship with his cousin, but that’s only because he divorced his cousin and you can’t divorce your children. [...]

i will provide all of those things, as soon as this site provides a link that says in the exact words that andrew and caroline giuliani hate their father, as your post claimed. soon as that happens, i will happily provide you with the info you desire lefty.

and here, to show how much more i am dedicated to fact then this joke of a site ill give you 1 up:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03.....lathem.htm

“make a great president”

“i do not want to hurt him. i love my father”

game. set. match.

i do not need to provide a quote on clinton or obama, i read between the lines, as per your advice.

Fair enough Matt, though your link is broken. Here’s the link to the post story where Andrew says he loves his father.

That fact doesn’t change the fact that Rudy has a horrible relationship with his children and they are now talking about that relationship. Take it up with the Post, NYT, or ABC if you’re upset. As long as it’s covered, we’ll cover it too.

(And if they stop, we’re not going to forget what’s already been written. Sorry pal.)

[...] My guess is Rudy Giuliani will not be reusing this ad from his 1993 mayoral campaign at any point in his presidential campaign. It’s narrated by Donna Hanover, Rudy’s second ex-wife and features footage of his son Andrew and daughter Caroline. Giuliani has been intermittently estranged from his children and their relationship with him has been a subject of scrutiny of late. [...]

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