Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor, unveiled an immigration advisory board as part of his campaign’s efforts to show off his tough anti-immigration stance. From Greg Sargent of TPM Cafe | Election Central:
The question, though, is whether unveiling an “Immigration Advisory Board” will be enough to erase memories of Rudy’s past tolerance, or even embrace, of illegal immigration. Rudy foes are pointing to this Giuliani quote from 1994:
“Some of the hardest-working and most productive people in this city are undocumented aliens,” Giuliani said at the time. “If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you’re one of the people who we want in this city. You’re somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair.”
11 Responses to “Giuliani’s Immigration Advisory Board at Odds with Past”
Matt,
You know, I’ll never understand why bloggers feel they are so special. I present a long history of Rudy Giuliani, on the record, coming out in support of securing the border and deporting those who have entered the country illegally. In response, all the “Right Field” can come up with are unsubstantiated attacks on either A. The Mayor’s Character or B. Quotes that are taken so far out of context that it becomes ridiculous and embarrassing for you to use them.
The bottom line is that Rudy Giuliani has always advocated securing the border, enforcing immigration law and deporting those here illegally. While associate attorney general, Rudy came out in support for a clear path to citizenship for undocumented workers, as deporting 12-20 million people is both operationally and logistically implausible.
I contrast and compare Rudy’s record with those of the three leading Democratic candidates because it gives the American people a clear comparison, a proven executive record of results (Rudy) and a minimal, contradictory legislative hodgepodge (Your Top Tier).
The choice is clear, you bloggers should do your home work.
So what you are really saying is that Rudy has CHANGED his position on immigration over the last few years? Where he use to welcome illegals with open arms he has now ALTERED HIS VIEW. When did this happen? How did his change of heart occur? Does he admit that it was a mistake to have New York a sanctuary city? I guess I just have to call it as I see it … oops Flip_Flop !!
Please post here the dates and events that are the proof that Giuliani is tough on immigration.
Give us the actual hard facts to aid our research in discovering that Giuliani does the work and isn’t all sound bites.
MJN,
Your party is all too familiar with flip-flops, so I know getting the opportunity to throw around that term labeling someone else gives you a sense of electoral justice, but you might want to figure out what the term means before you use it. It helps.
Ex: I actually voted for it, before I voted against it. (Flip Flop)
Below: (Not a Flip Flop) Of course, these are just facts. But it’s okay, the American people are used to getting their research from my party. Don’t worry, from tax cuts, to immigration, to affordable health care and the surge, I’ll be here to do the homework for you.
AS ASSOCIATE ATTORNEY GENERAL, GIULIANI CALLED FOR STRICTER IMMIGRATION LAWS
Associate Attorney General Giuliani Was Frustrated With Lack of Focus Justice Leadership Had Shown On Immigration Issues. Giuliani: “As you know, for too long those in positions of leadership in the Department have ignored the immigration area – policy, law and budget. Reversing this lack of emphasis and tackling problems long neglected are necessary …” (Associate Attorney General Rudy Giuliani, Letter To Nina Rao Cameron, INS District Counsel, 11/3/81)
In July 1982, Giuliani’s Office Commissioned A Report Of INS Headquarters In Order To Review Productivity And Efficiency Of The Agency. (Renee Szybala, Memo To Associate Attorney General Rudy Giuliani, 7/9/82)
In 1982, Giuliani Argued That The Federal Government Should Focus On Improved Border Security And Potentially Criminal Illegal Immigrants. GIULIANI: “And in a situation where we have enormous ongoing immigration problems, wouldn’t that be a terrible waste of our resources and a diversion from the kinds of things that the President has been doing and the Attorney General has been doing over the last six or seven months that have begun to restore control of our borders.” NEWSCASTER: “Giuliani says the Administration stands behind its policy of deterring those who come to the United States illegally by holding illegals in detention camps, increasing border controls, and implying sanctions against employers who hire illegal aliens.” (Miami’s Channel 10 News, 2/25/82)
Giuliani: “In The Last Decade, Our Policies Intended To Make Immigration Fair And Orderly Have Failed. We Truly Have Lost Control Of Our Borders.” (Associate Attorney General Rudy Giuliani, Remarks To Seventh Annual Baron De Hirsh Meyer Lecture Series, Miami, FL, 4/16/82)
Giuliani Noted It Was Lax Enforcement Of Immigration Laws That Led To An Uncontrolled Border And The Illegal Immigration Crisis. Giuliani: “This country has neglected to enforce our immigration laws. As a result, we have lost control of our borders. This Administration is committed to enforce its laws – firmly and fairly – so that all people who choose to come here, from whatever nation, will do so in accordance with our laws.” (Associate Attorney General Rudy Giuliani, Statement, 6/14/82)
AS MAYOR, GIULIANI WANTED FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DO MORE ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
Giuliani In 1995: “[T]he Federal Government Should Be Doing More About Illegal Immigration.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Joint Press Conference with Governor Pete Wilson (CA), New York, NY, 3/29/95)
Giuliani Said INS Failed To Deport Most Criminal Illegals, Even Though NYC Officials Gave Them Names. Giuliani: “We just happened to check the numbers and in this part of the state, there were only about 776 deportations last year of people. … Now we send thousands and thousands of names of illegal and undocumented aliens to the INS who have committed crimes. Either accused or convicted of committing crimes. So literally sitting at the INS is a pile maybe this big of names of people who have committed crimes and last year they got around to deporting seven to eight hundred of them. So before there are obligations placed on [city of New York], to turn over the names of children in school or their parents or people who use public hospitals, I’d like to see the Immigration and Naturalization Service dealing with people who commit crimes.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Joint Press Conference With Governor Pete Wilson (CA), New York, NY, 3/29/95)
In 1996, Giuliani Said The Federal Government Should Do More To Combat Illegal Immigrants, With Regard To Border Patrol As Well As Foreign Policy. GIULIANI: “What I say is illegal immigration is wrong. We should do everything we can to cut it out, to stop it. The federal government should do a lot more about it, both with regard to foreign policy, border patrol, things that are done with regard to deportation, in which a lot more resources should be put into it.” (CNN’s “Evans & Novak,” 7/6/96)
Giuliani Said The Federal Government Should Focus More Of Its Resources On Deporting Illegal Drug Dealers. Giuliani: What the federal government could do is to deport more of the illegal drug dealers that we have in our city which … unfortunately, very few deportations take place of the people who are actually selling drugs who are illegal immigrants …” (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 9/22/96)
Giuliani: “There Is No One That Is In Favor Of Illegal Immigration. I’m Against It. It’s Wrong For People To Violate The Law.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Remarks At The Conference On The New Immigrants, Minneapolis, MN, 9/30/96)
Giuliani Said The Federal Government Does Not Do Enough To Deport Illegal Immigrants. Giuliani: “[T]he reality is, the Federal Government doesn’t deport them. In New York City, which has 400,000 undocumented immigrants, only about 1,500 a year are deported. Under the new legislation, that number would — at most — double to about 3,000 out of 400,000.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Remarks At The Conference On The New Immigrants, Minneapolis, MN, 9/30/96)
Giuliani: “Preventing Illegal Immigration Is The Job Of The Federal Government. The United States Has To Do A Lot Better Job Of Patrolling Our Borders.” Giuliani: “[P]reventing illegal immigration is the job of the Federal Government. The United States has to do a lot better job of patrolling our borders. If we can’t stop illegal immigration, then we can’t stop drugs and weapons from entering the country, either..” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Remarks At The Conference On The New Immigrants, Minneapolis, MN, 9/30/96)
Giuliani: “[P]reventing Illegal Immigration Is The Job Of The Federal Government. The United States Has To Do A Lot Better Job Of Patrolling Our Borders.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Remarks At Harvard University’s Kennedy School Of Government, 10/10/96)
In 1997, “At A News Conference, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani Repeatedly Called For A Tightening Of Immigration Policy And Barring Aliens Who Admit They Have Been Accused Of Terrorism.” (Richard Pyle, “Source: FBI Links NYC Ploy To Hamas,” The Associated Press, 8/1/97)
Giuliani Called For INS To Focus More Energy On Deporting Illegals Who Commit Crimes And Endanger Society. Giuliani: “Along these lines, I believe that Congress should also encourage the INS to focus more of its energy and resources on deporting illegal immigrants who commit crimes and endanger the rest of society. New York City spends approximately 36 million dollars to jail illegal immigrants who are criminals. Of the 4,400 illegal immigrants who pass through the jail system only approximately 160 are deported each year. If the federal government is serious about stopping illegal immigration it should work diplomatically with other governments and make our national borders more secure.” (Mayor Rudy Giuliani, Judiciary Committee, U.S. Senate, Testimony, 8/11/97)
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, GIULIANI STRESSES FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO SECURE BORDERS FIRST
“Giuliani Said The Federal Government Needs To Secure Borders And Address Concerns About Security Before It Can Handle Questions About Immigrants Already In The United States.” (Brad Branan, “Giuliani Taps Into Valley Funds Again GOP Presidential Hopeful Attends Fresno Fundraiser,” The Fresno Bee, 6/29/07)
Giuliani Said Arizona Was Enacting Its Own Immigration Laws As A Result Of The Government’s Failure To Address The Issue. “Asked about a new Arizona law that will require suspension or revocation of business licenses of employers which [knowingly hire] illegal immigrants, Giuliani said it appeared to be a response by the state to the federal government’s failure to address the issue.” (Paul Davenport, “Giuliani: Focus Immigration Efforts On Border Enforcement,” The Associated Press, 7/26/07)
Noting Rudy’s record as you do here for us …. how do you account for the quote in the original posting here? They seem to be coming from complete opposite ends of the spectrum.Also there is a ten year gap between these early statements that you have posted ending 1997 and his campaign statementsin 2007. Has he stayed true during that time?
First, those quotes come from the entirety of his record, all the way back to the Justice Department.
Second, below you will find his same views, from 1996.
the quote in the post is about priorities. giuliani was fed up with the INS taking so much time to try to deport a professor whos visa has expired and a couple of bus boys, rather then deport the drug dealers who were getting out of jail. rudy’s point is that we cant deport 12 million all at once, and maybe not at all. but we can deport the worst of the worst first. who needs to get thrown out more urgently, the local drug dealer and gang banger or the gardner? giuliani has bated romney on this issue, and now the gov has to answer for 3 sanctuary cities, while rudy has a much stronger record on illegal immigration. point giuliani.
[...] Matt has already pointed out, Rudy Giuliani is flip–er–taking a position on immigration as a presidential candidate [...]
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We could examine your party’s top three candidates for President and their records on enforcing immigration law and securing the border. Well, let’s see:
Sen. Clinton: I guess we would have to look at her husband’s record as she seems to take credit for most of his executive accomplishments.
Sen. Obama: Nothing of note, but I’m sure he did some wonderful things in the Illinois State Senate.
Sen. Edwards: There had to have been a trial where he worked to sue someone that eventually drove up the price of illegal immigration? I mean, he’s just about the only Democratic candidate with a proven record. Who else can claim to making a public good more expensive and therefore less attainable for the poor Americans he claims to represent.
Left by Geoff Bailey
August 14, 2007 at 5:48pm