Comments on: Iowa: Golden Opportunity to Hate on the Gays

By: MJN

MJN — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 05:16:44 +0000

Matt,

So Rudy is more Pro- gay than anyone running in the Democratic race? He has done more for the gay issue than the Demos….. I think you were suppose to be quiet about that fact before the Primary election. After the Primary you were suppose to start shouting that little fact. OOps!

By: matt

matt — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:19:12 +0000

liberals are too ashamed of their own history. it must be horrible to be a party that gets 90% of the black vote, yet has still to this day never run an african american on its major party ticket. democrats breathed a huge sigh of relief in 1996, as Colin Powell passed on the presidential race, knowing that the first african american president being a republican would have exposed the hypocrisy and self-loathing that the liberal party is full of.

amazing that the supporters of byrd and sharpton can say with a straight face that they are open minded and republicans are bigots.

btw, powell and rice are the highest ranking african americans in u.s. history, appointed by a republican.

By: matt

matt — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 16:14:20 +0000

partner was a typo, party was the word i was shooting for, “frontrunner for the nomination of my PARTY”. the point was that the republican party you claim is so hateful is backing pro-gay rights candidate rudolph giuliani, so your charges simply do not fit.

and still no liberal on this site has explained why the top tier of the liberal party continues to oppose gay marriage. why are the top dems not accused of the same biogtry that you people lambast the republicans for? hypocrisy just runs too think in liberal veins.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 09:06:42 +0000

Matt sounds like that guy at Usenet who constantly bashes “Paulie” for expressing his opposition to bigotry and homophobia, saying that calling out bigots and racists as such is “bigoted.” That is the epitome of history-twisting perversion on the account of lower-case “matt”–whom I don’t believe is actually gay despite his references to “my partner” to give himself some sort of artificial cover.

“matt”, your right-wing conservobot roots are showing.

By: vernonlee

vernonlee — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 08:49:55 +0000

Another note about the Republican party and race: How did southern whites end up in the Democratic party in the first place? Because they viewed the Party of Lincoln as responsible for freeing slaves and forcing southern whites to treat ex-slaves as full citizens. Therefore the generations-long hatred of anything associated with Republicans was enough to keep them from registering as Republicans. For those who resented the south losing the “War of Northern Aggression,” Republican was a dirty word.

Until the Civil Rights Act. Then segregationist southern whites had a fresh(er) enemy: those in the Democratic party who led the fight for civil rights. Realizing they were marching under the wrong banner, Dixiecrats migrated to the Republican party, as LBJ correctly predicted.

So this isn’t an example of irony. Dixiecrats moving en masse to the Republican Party is, as Paul notes, realignment. And quite predictable and logical cause and effect.

By: matt

matt — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:28:01 +0000

wake up natasha, the dems are champions of stirring up race and bigotry to their advantage. in 04, bush won the more hispanics then any republican in history, so what did the dems do to combat that, they labeled anyone who was for ending illegal immigratin a racist who hates mexicans. what a dispicable way to regain lost hispanic support.

not to mention the race peddlers like sharpton and jackson, who themselves are anti-semites, who use race to divide americans on a daily basis. what a crock.

By: matt

matt — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:24:22 +0000

uh paulie, the front runner for the nomination of my partner is pro-civil unions, he has actual done more for gays and lesbians then anyone in your top tier.

and opposing gay-marriage does not equate to gay-hatred, again another incorrect assumption. the log cabin republicans are against gay marriage, do they hate themselves, or maybe they just understand the popular will of the american people is that marriage is between a man and a woman. i doubt the vice president hates his daughter, but that doesnt mean he believes in gay marriage.

its people like you who want to link every position you disagree with to bigotry that are the real hate mongers. if someone wants immagration reform, they are a racist, if they want traditional marriage, they are a bigot. thats how the left goes about its attacks, and its disgusting.

By: Paul Curtis

Paul Curtis — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:44:09 +0000

Meanwhile, nobody – not lower-case matt, not SueDe, nobody – can argue that Republicans don’t use gay-hatred as a primary organizing principle of their politics.

And that is disgusting. Lower-case matt, you want to defend that?

By: seatech1

seatech1 — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:32:01 +0000

While it’s true that the southern “Dixiecrats” were against the Civil Rights act and were pro-segregation, that is no longer the case. Those who believe that way are now members of the conservative Republican party, or are independents. They felt that the Democratic Party did not represent their position on these subjects. The liberal, Democratic Party now stands for equality and for the sanctity of the rights guaranteed to the individual by the Constitution.
To try to equate the beliefs of members who left the party because it did not represent them with that party is absurd.
Racism is largely (but not exclusively) a conservative trait in this part of the country (the deep south). As a resident of the south, I see it everyday. Trying to justify contemporary actions by comparing them to antiquated party alignments just does not work.
Today, the Democratic Party is largely a party of liberals, and liberals are not racist or homophobic, as a general rule.

By: natasha

natasha — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:45:39 +0000

Matt – Your comprehension skills are unenviable. The ACLU supports everyone’s rights of free speech and free association because their belief in the principles of the Constitution is steadfast and universal.

While the top Dems might not support gay marriage, they do support civil unions and have worked to end other forms of discrimination against them. Also, none of them are trying to win votes by stirring up bigotry against them. And as was noted previous regarding the votes of racial minorities, while the gay vote isn’t monolithic, the larger majority of them support the Democrats. So it wouldn’t seem by a long shot that you’re qualified to speak to their mainstream preferences or opinions.