Comments on: Immigration Trouble for Rudy

By: Matt Ortega

Matt Ortega — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:30:04 +0000

I would disagree that Giuliani sounds moderate a lot. At least, not on the campaign trail this year. This is obviously because he has to “out-winger” the other candidates, including Mitt “Double Gitmo/Double Gonzo” Romney.

By: Paul Curtis

Paul Curtis — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:42:37 +0000

“Ferret-whistle politics.” Brilliant.

By: The Sleep Thief

The Sleep Thief — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:06:36 +0000

This is of course just one of several examples of Giuliani needlessly provoking the same right-wing constituency he occasionally tries to pander to, without making any real points with moderates because, as with his comments about judicial appointees, he doesn’t really try to get a consistent message out to them. It’s often said that Bush is a master of dog-whistle politics — making comments that sound moderate and even bland to most people while secretly saying to the right wing of the party: I understand your needs, I am one of you. Giuliani seems to have mastered something else, which I would call ferret-whistle politics. He makes comments that sound moderate and even bland to most people, while secretely saying to the right wing of the party: You’re nuts, you need professional help. Why does he do it? Who knows? The guy just doesn’t like ferrets.

By: matt

matt — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:05:14 +0000

the real truth is rudy said the exact same thing on illegal immigration that tancredo said, and i dont think anyone in the gop thinks tancredo is soft of illegal immigration. rudy stated the facts, and romney showed everyone he is too dumb to understand them.

the media is living for the fall of frontrunners, first mccain fell, now they are trying their best to engineer a rudy fall. not gonna happen. rudy will weather thompson’s announcement bump, score big in the oct 9 debate, and win the third quarter fund raising on the 15, embarassing thompson in the process.

and even more, what people seem to miss is that when you take mccain out of the race, almost all his support goes to rudy, adding some 10-15 points to rudy’s lead. gallup shows that when left one-on-one with thompson, rudy wins by 20 some points. even the newly leaked thompson memo has their internals showing rudy has steady support, while mccain and romney are falling. the biggest movement all week wasnt thompson’s bump, which was expected, but rudy cutting romeny’s lead in NH in half.